Star Trek

[MoochasaurusRex]

But I still found it kind of shocking that they tossed aside 40 years of movies and books so that they could do their own thing with established and beloved characters.

Personally, I wish they'd made no concessions to continuity whatsoever, jettisoned all the time travel stuff, and just said "FUCK YOU NERDS WE'RE STARTING OVER DEAL WITH IT".

Old Spock and that plotline certainly didn't ruin the movie for me, but I think it would have been better if they weren't burdened by 40 years of insane fandom to appease.

Agreed. I loved the movie to death, but definitely felt the "Time Travel" story line should have been jettisoned.

Anyone else love the moment when Nero appeared to Pike via view screen and said "Hi Christopher, I'm Nero." That made me bust out laughing (in a good way.)

Can't wait for the sequels! Let's hope the sterile nature of what Trek had become doesn't creep it's way back into this new beast...

[bangalore_monkey]

Anyone else love the moment when Nero appeared to Pike via view screen and said "Hi Christopher, I'm Nero." That made me bust out laughing (in a good way.)

i thought it was Hilarous! what an ass.

it's a bit odd though, after 25 years of wallowing in anger and sorrow, and in the midst of destroying armadas and imploding plantets, he's still cracking jokes.

ok, maybe not cracking jokes, but being purposefully irreverent.

[Captain Genius]

That line has been running thru my head since I saw it.
And at two screenings, I was the only one who laughed at it.
I'm not sure he was cracking a joke, maybe being an ass.
I liked how matter of fact it was.

[Lester Toil]

It's taken me 25 years to realize when it comes to Hollywood, the word "legacy" becomes a moot point. Be it Dukes of Hazard, Underdog, Fat Albert, Dracula, Starsky and Hutch, Transformers or your favorite Mother Goose tale, the film industry's first priority isn't maintaining a property's legacy. Tim Burton has taught us that many, many, many times.

BTW, in addition to Alice in Wonderland, Burton has got his mediocre little hands on 1984 and Dark Shadows.

GOLD FURY!!

[Uloo]

Hmm ... In my mind, Hollywood continually revisits the legacies of its forebears.

[Elliotanimated]

Hmm ... In my mind, Hollywood continually revisits the legacies of its forebears.

It is the way of the force.

[AgentHelix]

Considering Star Trek's legacy at this point consists of some really abysmal series and even more abysmal films (Data lounge singing in Nemesis probably being the nadir of human culture as a whole), the new film hardly damages or disrespects it.

[Uloo]

In a poor, indirect way I was trying to make the point
that I don't think Hollywood ignores legacies (as Lester suggests).
Rather, it loves to find new things to do with them.

I'm debating use of terms here.

In my mind, a legacy's something left
behind by someone who's gone before
(a body of work, a pile of cash, etc).

In that way, Roddenberry arguably has a legacy,
Shatner arguably has a legacy, and others may.
Perhaps Star Trek is part of these respective legacies ...

... but I'd argue Star Trek itself does not have a legacy.

[HellboyOne]

... but I'd argue Star Trek itself does not have a legacy.

I'd say its legacy is in those who were inspired by it whether they be entertainers, artists, or scientists. I've heard more than a few astronauts or physicists say they wouldn't be where they were if it wasn't for Star Trek. This may be a loose definition of legacy...

Also, what AgentHelix said.

[OFFBEAT]

Rick's right.. There's a documentary out called "How William Shatner Changed The World"
and it's all about how many things we have today (ie Ipod, cell phones, etc.) was inspired by Star Trek.

[Benjamin]

yeah it was great. better than about 90% of all trek anyways. I have to say I really enjoy of self actualized alternate reality! it saved us from any terribly gay "how does everything fit together after?" simple answer it's not going to! But obviously, fate still has a guiding hand in all of it. i.e. old spock and young kirk...and then scotty... which I didn't mind very much at all. thought it had a bit of magic. It's trek...but happening sooner, younger, cooler and MUCH more entertaining!

nero was a bit odd though, and sure he had brilliant conviction (25 years!) but the way it seemed explained was like this: spock goes to save romulus (?), it gets consumed, nero's mining vessel immediately shows up, and then time fuck super war.

[Kelly Tindall]

I thought it was hugely entertaining. Everybody was so good that it didn't matter that there wasn't very much to do but run around.

One thing that this movie really nailed: The Enterprise is a big huge fucking death ship floating in space, and that is awesome. The 'oooh, ahhh' is way up there in this one.

[che-che]

i dont i've actually sat down to watch the original t.v. episodes. the first season is on netflix iinstant play, and in HD even! saw the first 5 episodes, man they are pretty damn good. plus i didnt know they was hour long episodes. Its so good when it touches the lips!

[Elliotanimated]

We saw this last night and I thought it was one of the most entertaining films I've seen in a long time.
There were certainly a handful of things I didn't love, but the whole thing moves at such a cracking pace I didn't really contemplate it for too long but for one thing.
I thought it was a shame Scotty was reduced to a kind of amusing comedy relief.
I guess they figured they had Simon Pegg on hand so they'd make the best of him, but he really doesn't get much of a chance to flex his engineering muscles really.
And how did he become head of engineering?

Anyway.
I didn't want to mention that because I really did enjoy this immensely.

(Oh - one more thing. Why isn't Winona Ryder in films much anymore? It's because she is a really, really bad actress).

[Atomicpanda]

And how did he become head of engineering?

The "Red Shirt" that was killed by the drill was the chief engineer. I've only seen the film once but I think they referred to him as 'Chief Engineer Olson.' I guess since the crew as almost entirely made up of cadets it was pretty easy for Pike to promote people to vacant positions. Plus, since Scotty was already in Starfleet he probably outranked all the engineering cadets on the ship.
Oh, listen to me nerding it up.