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by **bangalore_monkey** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:23 pm

alright those les flares in the clips are kinda ridiculous.

he uses more than Michael Bay!

by **Atomicpanda** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:39 pm

Yeah. I actually just posted my views on the flare thing on my journal. Mostly it's what I said earlier here but this part is new and basically my whole problem with them:

"My problem with lens flares really boils down to this, to have a lens flare you you need a lens. In other words, you need a camera. Lens flares are constant reminders that what you're seeing isn't real. It draws attention to the film making, possibly at the detriment of the actual film. It's as if a book played the soundtrack of some one typing anytime it was opened to keep the reader reminded that what they're reading is just a book, and to pull them back to that reality in case they started to lose themselves in the narrative."

Still going to hold off on my final judgment until I've seen the film. My guess, at this point, is that the flares will bug me but that I'll still enjoy the film over all.

by **HellboyOne** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:08 pm

Lens flares also add much needed realism, depending on what's going on. I don't think anyone's suspension of disbelief is so strong that they think Star Trek is real when they're watching it. "Crap...a lens flare? Wait a second?? Spaceship battles aren't real! FUCK!" I'm exaggerating, of course, but you know...

by **jharker** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:22 pm

I concur, and the lens flares didn?t bother me.

Think the aliens and sspaceshipsand whatnot are reminders enough that what we?re watching isn?t real.

The lensflares are just an aesthetic choice you can make with a film. Sometimes they even help the storytelling.
There are all kinds of devices to enhance the visuals in a film to make a point.

You could argue the same thing about the shaky cam or film grain or whatever that they take you out of the film.

I think it really is a matter of personal taste.

by **Benjamin** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:26 am

abrams loves them.

The exact same style lens flaring is all over in MI:III and has been a sporadic but seemingly important thing on Fringe. On fringe though... it never seems like any true light source is flaring, so it could denote something worth paying attention to, not specific to the episode, but to the BIG picture.

(The team of the show constantly hint that clues are spread everywhere, from the titles and commercial breaks to things inbetween... could just be fishing for viewers to be more involved)

by **bangalore_monkey** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:26 pm

Benjamin wrote:abrams loves them.

The exact same style lens flaring is all over in MI:III

ha, even in the title on the posters!

by **Atomicpanda** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 1:39 pm

If J.J. Abrams had directed Wrath of Kahn... I get it now. That's so much better!

Also, I meant this to be funny. I'm not arguing about lens flares. Some people don't notice them. Some people don't mind them. Some like them. I'm not a fan and I leave it at that.

by **em...** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:47 pm

"KHAAAAAAAN....'t see anything!!!"

by **Cagliostro** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:21 pm

Nothing the camera does is realistic, cinema is not even close to reproducing what the human eye sees in everyday life, I guess cinema is a stylised version of it's own self aware visual limitations, like how Andrew Stanton purposely took the lens technology for WallE back to the 70's. Less realism looks more real or believable for certain projects. I don't think lens flare ruins any immersion or compromises the realism or believability of the film, I just think it's an art direction which either bothers you or it doesn't.

by **trigger25** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:57 am

Abrams responds to Atomicpanda:

http://io9.com/5230278/jj-abrams-admits-star-trek-lens-flares-are-ridiculous

by **Scripe** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:20 am

It looks like Bungie shot this film in the Halo 3 Engine.

by **HellboyOne** » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:42 pm

trigger25 wrote:Abrams responds to Atomicpanda:

http://io9.com/5230278/jj-abrams-admits-star-trek-lens-flares-are-ridiculous

It is a little goofy that they pointed lights at the camera on purpose to get flares instead of letting them all organically happen. It doesn't really bug me though. That bridge is covered in light bulbs.

by **che-che** » Fri May 01, 2009 1:59 pm

i like the flares, it gives it its own thing. besides those flares, are probably better than all the last 3 star wars movies combined. hahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

by **Gibson89** » Tue May 05, 2009 6:50 pm

I'm just gonna leave this here....

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/t ... =a-section

by **thirteen11** » Wed May 06, 2009 4:30 pm

The "in other news" at the end of that clip is the best part.

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