"Spielberg, Jackson team for Tintin"

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Postby atarimonkey » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:18 pm

You'll have to make do with this till it's back on then!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csc4jRSGKhg[/youtube]

During WWII, Tintin was published in a newspaper controlled by Nazi forces, and it was a decision he came to regret.
But no way was Herg? a Nazi.


Came to regret been the phrase in question! :lol:
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Postby Elliotanimated » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:05 am

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A no-go?

Postby acetate » Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:19 pm

Is it true that it's a no-go ? I hope so.
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Postby mitchloidolt » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:22 pm

Elliot just posted a link stating Paramount possibly picked it up. I think it's going to be good.
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Postby Lester Toil » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:39 pm

Denis wrote:
Neneuche wrote:Which I now understand makes no sense since Herge was such a chauvinistic guy. And a racist.


Like, probably, 90% of the people in the cartoon industry at that time. :?


And that applies to Will Eisner as well. As brilliant as he was, his Ebony character was one of the most insipid Black stereotypes in comic history. His depiction of Ebony wasn't even a reflection of those times. He drew him in a big lip style that harkened back to the South of the late 1800s.
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Postby Cagliostro » Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:20 pm

I saw a documentary about Herge, he was wrongly labeled a racist and a nazi sympathiser because he continued to earn a living during nazi occupation which was deemed as selling out, I know some of his drawings were racist caricatures but I think this was the ignorance of the time rather than white power and hate towards other races. I think his composition skills and sense of movement are amazing, Flight 714 rates as one of the best comics I've ever read.

I don't know if Herge was a nice guy or not but if we're going to judge art based on the personalities of the artists then we may as well write off 90% of the artwork out there.
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Postby Scripe » Fri Sep 26, 2008 8:50 am

Lester Toil wrote:His depiction of Ebony wasn't even a reflection of those times.


The character was created in the 40's. Unfortunately it was a reflection of the times across the country in the 40's.
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Postby CITIZEN KANE » Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:54 pm

It'll be interesting to see what it "looks" like.

My WETA source seemed to suggest they're going for a "Real body/Cartoon head" approach, i.e. They'll use the real actor's torsos then animate 3D Cartoon likenesses of Tintin, Haddock et al's visages over the actor's faces.
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Postby mitchloidolt » Sat Sep 27, 2008 12:01 am

I remember seeing (somewhere on this site) that it would be like, real life Herge as well.

Is this Tintin?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/colum ... intin.html

I guess a little bit of CG might look pretty interesting. Photoshop anyone?
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Postby CITIZEN KANE » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:55 am

That's the kid who is playing him, Andy Serkis is Captain Haddock.

Again, the impression I got is that they were using the actor's real bodies, but animating Cartoony heads on top of the actor's heads. I've probably got it arse-backwards, it's some sort of mo-cap, but hopefully not as "Uncanny Valley" as 'Beowulf' et al.
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Postby J Schmo » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:02 pm

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111800 ... id=13&cs=1

Spielberg, Jackson dig into 'Tintin'
Duo's motion-capture film quietly in motion
By TATIANA SIEGEL
Steven Spielberg this week will quietly wrap 32 days of performance-capture lensing on "Tintin," then hand the project to producer Peter Jackson, who will focus on the film's special effects for the next 18 months.
Although the baton-pass is stealthy, "Tintin" is anything but a low-profile project. And that's just the first of many contradictions inherent with the film, which brings together two of cinema's visionaries.

The Tintin comicbook series about a globetrotting teenaged boy reporter, which originated 80 years ago in Belgium, is wildly popular in many countries around the world. In the U.S., however, the character is little-known, especially among children.

Spielberg and Jackson's respective camps have tried to keep a lid on the details of what is expected to become a three-film franchise while hyping the one-of-a-kind aspects of "Tintin's" motion-capture technology, which is being created by Jackson's New Zealand-based effects house Weta.

Just don't ask too many questions.

Spielberg's longtime spokesman Marvin Levy, who welcomed a story on "The Adventures of Tintin: Secret of the Unicorn," said, "You have to see it to understand (the technology). It really can't be described."

But he quickly nixed the idea of a visit to the set. "That wouldn't be feasible," he says.

The film's other producer, Kathleen Kennedy, is happy to talk about "Tintin," but admitted the world Spielberg and Jackson are creating is hard to describe.

"It's extremely difficult to explain to someone unless they are standing here next to me," Kennedy says from the Los Angeles set. "And usually then their reaction is, 'Oh my god.' "

Kennedy and Spielberg acquired the project in 1983 after Spielberg's interest in the project was piqued by critics' insistence that his "Raiders of the Lost Ark" harkened back to Tintin's escapades in exotic locations.

But the pair couldn't realistically begin developing the pic until about two years ago, when motion-capture technology finally caught up with the demands of the story. Spielberg received his introduction into the fledgling technology via his producing role on "Monster House." But Jackson, who joined Kennedy and Spielberg on the project in early 2007, is clearly a master of the form. Both the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and "King Kong" elevated performance-capture to never-before-seen realism.

Jackson's role as mo-cap mentor to Spielberg, however, prompts the question: Who exactly is steering the "Tintin" ship?

Spielberg will receive sole directing credit on the first film, though even that distinction seems murky given that Jackson is doing the more time-consuming work, spending a year and a half creating the Tintin's world vs. Spielberg's one month on set. Jackson also traveled to Los Angeles for rehearsals and for the first week of shooting.

"It's hard to delineate between directing and producing on films like this," explains one project insider.

Kennedy insists that the transitions between the two creative talents are relatively seamless. "They are amazingly collaborative, even more so than Steven and George (Lucas were on the 'Raiders' films)."

And then, there are the two filmmakers' differing styles and thematic vibes: Spielberg is more character-oriented and relatively lean while Jackson revels in lavish visuals ... and running times.

The conventional wisdom has always been that Spielberg would direct his "Tintin" film, and Jackson would have his own. (It has long been reported that Jackson will helm the second chapter of three "Tintin" films.) There was even speculation that the two films would be shot back to back, much like Jackson's "Lord of the Rings." However, there is no second film in the immediate future or even a script for one at this point.

Paramount and Sony, the first film's co-financiers, have yet to greenlight a followup to the $120 million project and are waiting for a script before making a decision.

The first film, which was No. 11 in Georges "Herge" Remi's 24-book Tintin series, was written by Steven Moffat, Edgar Wright and Joe Cornish.

Jackson is currently taking a stab at the second film and sketching out ideas, though he wouldn't necessarily take screenplay credit for that film and could possibly hand script duties back to Moffat, Wright and Cornish.

Even the casting of the first film suggests a strong Jackson influence: Beside the inclusion of "LOTR's" Andy Serkis, the helmer made a personal call to enlist star Jamie Bell, who played a supporting role in Jackson's "King Kong."

But Spielberg's camp insists he will have a firm handle on all aspects of the film, including its special effects. Jackson and Spielberg have rigged a video conferencing system by which Spielberg is able to see everything Jackson sees at the Weta facility in New Zealand.

Spielberg and Kennedy also are making their presence felt with the project's early marketing decisions.

Paramount, which will distribute the film in all English-speaking territories and Asia, has the bigger challenge, with much lower awareness of the property in these territories, particularly the United States.

But one Par top exec downplayed any perceived challenges.

"It's not like there was any awareness on 'Kung Fu Panda' either," the exec says. "We had to go out and introduce this property to the world."

Still, "Kung Fu Panda" enjoyed a high-profile voice cast, with stars Angelina Jolie and Jack Black tubthumping in the film's behalf. By contrast, the only household name in "Tintin's" cast is current James Bond incarnation Daniel Craig, who is notorious for eschewing press junkets.

Sony, which is handling all overseas regions outside Asia, will likely have an easier time selling the film ahead of its planned 2011 release because the comicbook, which has been translated into 50 languages, remains hugely popular in the territories Sony will handle, including non-English-speaking Europe and India.

If anyone can overcome the film's challenges and silence the questions, it's the combined superpower of Spielberg and Jackson. Still, this highly anticipated collaboration continues to beg more questions than it answers.
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Postby Elliotanimated » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:10 pm

I have a pal who did some leg work developing the look of the thing and he says it looks weird.
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Postby Cagliostro » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:29 pm

Elliotanimated wrote:I have a pal who did some leg work developing the look of the thing and he says it looks weird.


Oh dear, that never bodes well, I've kind of lost faith in Jackson since King Kong, that was such a vain, misjudged, sterile project and the sort of thing I thought he was beyond. Such a weird direction he took that movie in. Yep weird is the word, but not in a good way. I remember during the making of that movie he claimed that special effects are now only limited by a film makers imagination. Any director who claims that is talking bull and dangerously close to losing it. It's almost, dare I say, George Lucas territory.
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Postby Elliotanimated » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:37 pm

Actually, I loved Kong....
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Postby Cagliostro » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:52 pm

Elliotanimated wrote:Actually, I loved Kong....


I loved Kong, I just didn't like the film he was in.
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