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Postby Asyouwish » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:42 am

Isn't there some class action suit where the general public can take the rights of Star Wars away from this guy?
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Postby Elliotanimated » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:43 am

You mean take it away from George Lucas or the author of this book?
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Postby Asyouwish » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:05 pm

Lucas.
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Postby ben c » Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:46 am

i read the book , couldn't put it down!
very interesting window into the creative
process.

although i have to say, yes "empire" went
in a very different stylistic direction than lucas
intended, and he should be banned from ever
writing dialogue again, but it seems that in terms
of the basic material, he came up with a lot
more of the great stuff than people want to
accept.

as for the "writing on the fly" aspect, i think the
point is not that its some evil conspiracy that
we should all gasp at, but that this explains so
many of the decisions ? both brilliant and
retarded (yes, full retard, lincoln osirus be damned)
? that took the stories in so many interesting
directions.

the only thing that bugged me was how he tried
to defend the prequels by claiming that lucas
was forced into certain corners by earlier de-
cisions (again, the importance of the "on the
fly" issue), and he made the best of what he
had. i certainly don't think he made the best of
what he had, and in any case, your average
eight-year old could have taken an extra hour
back in the 1990s to think up a better overall
plot structure from the get-go, skipping most of
lucas's self-created restrictions.

anyway, i highly recommend this book!

afterwards, i had fun looking at some of my own
junk, thinking back to various influences, or how
changes in this or that forced me to be creative
and go in new directions that i later took for granted...
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Postby Elliotanimated » Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:31 pm

I'm glad you enjoyed it.
It gives an interesting balance between Lucas forced to be a resourceful film maker and the fact that he may not actually be very good at it anyway.

What's the first half of the book about?
I started in the middle.
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Postby Kelly Tindall » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:05 pm

I've always thought of Lucas as a great producer... He has good ideas and usually hires smart people to execute them. It's when he's responsible for anything other than the money that he seems to shit the bed.

Do they talk about Hidden Fortress in this book? Because Hidden Fortress is so much better than Star Wars, I can't even begin.
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Postby Elliotanimated » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:33 pm

Yes they do - at length.
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Postby HellboyOne » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:14 pm

Kelly Tindall wrote:
Do they talk about Hidden Fortress in this book? Because Hidden Fortress is so much better than Star Wars, I can't even begin.


It's amazing how much Hidden Fortress there is in Star Wars. It's borderline plagiarism.
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Postby ben c » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:22 pm

according to the book, it WAs plagerism ?
at least at one point, it was even more
directly, scene-for-scene ripped off. and
lucas considered buying the rights to
"fortress" so he could use it outright.
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