I just got an e-mail from that art thief

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Postby sukeband » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:17 am

digitaldreammachine wrote:The names and stuff people have left on these 'thieves' forums, which I haven't seen would be enough make this board look bad when outside viewers come in. While these 'thieves' shouldn't be taking the art and doing with it what they are, on no terms should we act like childish brats and take verbal assault to a new level.

And while some of you may not see that as a concern, it truly is. And as drugs said, Shane, Rick, and others take pride on keeping this forum respectable for us, and provide access to professional critiques and praise and areas to share thoughts, ideas, and gather around the communal fire.

I certainly try to act with courtesy and respect and I would admit that boards where people who aren't mature enough to handle these issues respectfully have went downhill - I would hate to see 'application only membership' apply, but if it keeps the immature ones out, I would be up for it. The good 'sijun.com' forum went downhill when there was a lot of name-calling, flaming, and other things. All of these things come with increased membership but can be managed if caught early enough.

In no way is such language and disrespect tolerable when it comes to reflecting back on the artists, animators, authors, photographers, filmmakers, and other members of the Drawing Board here. Many of us are working professionals and don't need the added verbal assaults. I'm proud to say I'm a board member here and want to continue to see more exciting works of art, photos, and thoughts from old and new members.

I feel respect is the number one thing lacking in some people today. Have some respect for Shane and the others and handle these issues with more class and let's get back to creating and sharing here.

EDIT: I wanted to add, as I think I mentioned in my reply about the girl using images on her site and claiming it was hers, that it is especially important to not use name-calling and degradation when dealing with these issues because of some people's problems with mental instability. Knowing some people who have been clinically depressed, down on their luck, etc., it does not take much to set them over the edge. Name calling can certainly do that. So if nothing else, at least keep in mind that you're dealing with a human being that may also have some mental/health issues to deal with.

*steps down from soapbox*
:D



Amen
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Postby le vengeur masque » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:56 am

I'm afraid the turn things are taken will demand of you administrators/moderators a less tolerant, more active role, I mean close threads and ban users, or this forum would go hell soon. We have already lost our Shane. I think none of us would like to see any other talented artist go cause this is becoming a flame war arena.
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Postby HellboyOne » Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:08 am

We lost Shane a long time ago. He's just made it official. But hopefully he'll still drop by now and then and maybe, some day, return as a semi-permanent fixture.

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Postby MCB » Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:34 am

As far as I can tell there is no official ?code of conduct? on this board beyond the ?Note about Replying and Criticism? topic by HellboyOne in the Welcome forum. I could be mistaken but I searched and found no such formal declaration. Nevertheless, I believe there is an informal ?code,? an ad hoc honor system to which we have all pledged ourselves with our membership. It is the administrator?s duty to reign in, admonish, edit, or ban the wayward among us. It is our duty as members to be equally civil, respectful, and above all professional to each other as well as to newcomers to our online community.

However, that only extends to this site. How individual members of this site behave on another?s website is their own business. We have no right to admonish them for their, perhaps hasty and/or ill chosen, words or to demand of them any expectation beyond their own common sense. We are all each of us free to speak our minds, either for good or ill, right or wrong, civil or crude.

If you dislike something that someone else has either done or stated within the relevant confines of these boards then either bring it to the attention of our board administrators or ignore it. But under no circumstances should we instruct others what to say or how to say it beyond the confines stated above. In those situations we are each beholden unto ourselves. If you do not appreciate the actions or behavior of a fellow board member outside of the boards then send them either a personal email or a personal message. Such petty grievances should not be openly brought to the attention of the board community.

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Postby drugmassacre » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:57 am

When people who are members of this board go to another website as a representative of this board and in defense of other members of this board, and then starts acting like a total asshole - then it does make it the business of the board, it does reflrect on us, especially when it's not just one person, but multiple people.
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Postby emceeONE » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:39 pm

Not to beat a dead horse, but I just wanted to point out that potential employers frequent this board. How many will return if all they see is flame wars and their potential employees getting wild and rowdy? Justifiably so or not...especially in the image sections.
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Postby The Dark Hero » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:54 am

When people who are members of this board go to another website as a representative of this board and in defense of other members of this board, and then starts acting like a total asshole - then it does make it the business of the board, it does reflrect on us, especially when it's not just one person, but multiple people.


drugs makes a point here, i wasnt one of the ones to go to those sites and spam them, but i did have a fair go from here...

Not to beat a dead horse, but I just wanted to point out that potential employers frequent this board. How many will return if all they see is flame wars and their potential employees getting wild and rowdy? Justifiably so or not...especially in the image sections.


also a great point, looking back on the past days, with all the flaming and lynchmobs, i kinda regret getting involved.
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Postby Scott Thigpen » Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:40 am

counterpoint (and no flame):

what if potential employers see how passionate artists are about protecting their artwork?

granted, I think calling people degrading names and resorting to mass vulgar language is not good either and could have been handled in a better light.

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Postby emceeONE » Sat Oct 18, 2003 7:40 am

Didn't consider you post a flame, although I am decreasingly aware of what constitutes a flame. :)

I agree, employers seeing how passionate the employees are about their work is always good. But the name calling was made even worse because it was in the wrong section. Had it been "below the line," I don't think many employers would have taken notice, had there in fact been employers looking. Imagine the lengthy discussions of homosexuality and religion in the sketchbook section. Best movies ever in the girls section. Regardless of the more civil tone of those threads, they would discourage images from being posted and lurkers from viewing. I'm not saying I'm innocent, but lets all be more thoughtful in the future.

Man, this horse is dying all over again...:oops:
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Re: I just got an e-mail from that art thief

Postby Arnaud Hilmarcher » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:55 am

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Re: I just got an e-mail from that art thief

Postby Arnaud Hilmarcher » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:26 pm

... I just got two e-mails from that art thief !

Urban Kaos Designs wrote:Hi, we did not get this design from DeviantArt,
we purchased it from a Designer in June 2011 (a year ago)
he had it sketched out on Paper which he took a Photo of and we then digitalised it.
Thanks.


Urban Kaos Designs wrote:Grow up,
the design has been edited,
so it doesnt look like your work,
and yes it was purchased in which i've now complained to the guy and i've had my money back,
and we've now edited the design...
if it isnt exactly like yours then you have no more need to email us,
just like we dont constantly email and cry and moan to the people who use our work but slightly edit it,
as they are not exactly the same.
have a nice day.


... Without a signature

Funny fellow ! But what did I found ? http://crabamoustache.deviantart.com/art/Well-who-did-this-drawing-309599946
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