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Why does Hollywood hate nerds?

Postby Sirius » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:52 am

I dont know if this is the right place to post this.

I remember when I realized that I would never be the same again when it came to movies based on Comics, Games, books, etc. I was in middle school, and my mom took me to see.... Street Fighter The Movie. I was so happy at the thought of seeing my video game characters come to life. Then it happened. I saw it. Ryu and Ken didnt look like themselves. They werent even noble characters. Guile... An all american guy had an accent. In all... The movie was all wrong from the start!

Why. I ask. Why can they not stick to the source material? Does every Director, Writer, Producer have to douche up the movies? I remember one guy saying that he pays to see his favorite character come to life from how he remembers, not some directors interpretation.

How can you screw it up when it comes to comic movies? the COMICS are basically story boards!!!!!

Anyone else have an answer, or gripe with this?
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Postby HellboyOne » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:50 am

They're doing a better job of it these days. But it's not that they hate you. They just don't care. They'll do it their way and if it makes money, then they did their job regardless of what you think. And we'll still see the movies, regardless of all our belly-aching. Nerds are a pittance of the population. The rest are normal folk who don't care if Spider-Man shoots organic webs or not.
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Postby AgentHelix » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:15 am

Because nerds have shitty taste anyway.
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Postby faroukbaaaaa » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:48 am

Why can they not stick to the source material? Does every Director, Writer, Producer have to douche up the movies? I remember one guy saying that he pays to see his favorite character come to life from how he remembers, not some directors interpretation.


the source material for street fighter is... ???? i think it is two guys facing each other and doing comination attacks. that they turned that into a movie longer than one minute is worthy of a slap on the back. So far as the guy paying to see something how HE remembers I am absolutely sure will lead to a life time of disappointment... unless Hollywood final comes to it's senses and actually begins to ask him what he thinks before they make any further movies.

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Postby RSantosJr » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:14 pm

faroukbaaaaa wrote:
Why can they not stick to the source material? Does every Director, Writer, Producer have to douche up the movies? I remember one guy saying that he pays to see his favorite character come to life from how he remembers, not some directors interpretation.


the source material for street fighter is... ???? i think it is two guys facing each other and doing comination attacks. that they turned that into a movie longer than one minute is worthy of a slap on the back.


And there you have it. Adaptations fail because people like faroukbaaaa write them. :P

And for the record, the source material for the original Street Fighter is Bloodsport.
The source for Street Fighter II is Enter the Dragon.
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Postby faroukbaaaaa » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:56 pm

I thought you nerds where sticklers for facts.
Street fighter the game pre dates blood sport the film doesn't it?

This has taken a turn for the odder now. You people want a film of a game based on a film that was based on a game.

Is it becoming clearer now why hollywood doesn't listen to you guys?
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Postby Captain Genius » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:48 pm

Yeah, but Jim Kelly didn't throw no Super Shin Hadoken EX 3's if I remember correctly.

Cause ain't no metal hand stopping that.
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Postby Benjamin » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:02 pm

Its not exclusive to us nerds sadly. Almost anything adapted, regardless of genre is hacked up and rearranged in the effort by hollywood to make money off of the enthusiasts (who will go ALMOST no matter what) and change it enough in a way to lure in the general public.
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Postby ben c » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:16 am

it's true -- if hollywood is not going to respect "pride and prejudice" or "wuthering heights", what makes you think they are going to give special treatment to a movie based on , say, a one-dimensional fighting game or a line of war toys?
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Postby Sirius » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:26 am

faroukbaaaaa wrote:
Why can they not stick to the source material? Does every Director, Writer, Producer have to douche up the movies? I remember one guy saying that he pays to see his favorite character come to life from how he remembers, not some directors interpretation.


the source material for street fighter is... ???? i think it is two guys facing each other and doing comination attacks. that they turned that into a movie longer than one minute is worthy of a slap on the back. So far as the guy paying to see something how HE remembers I am absolutely sure will lead to a life time of disappointment... unless Hollywood final comes to it's senses and actually begins to ask him what he thinks before they make any further movies.

Hollywood hates nerds for the same reason everyone hates nerds


Whoa...Whoa... WHOA!!! Ok, lets take a step back before any of us are accused of blasphemy here. 2D fighting game yes. But to just butcher it like that is not excusable. There's a story there. But more than anything you have characters. With stories. How can you make Ken & Ryu weapons smugglers? RYU? Really? Balrog was a good guy? LOL. E-Honda was Hawaiian. There's sooo much faults in this movie, its horrible. Its really a slap in the face to everyone.

I really, honestly feel like Hollywood are the cool kids, and again us nerds are being bullied around. They choose to do whatever they want, and well. Their mentality is.. "Too bad". "Yeah, we gave Superman a child... What are you gonna do about it?". "Wolverine? Shot him in the head with a magic bullet, that'll please the whole memory lost thing".

Every time I hear about a movie based on something other than an original idea. I get scared. Next is Avatar: The last air bender. Directed by M. Night Shamalamalan. Just the choice of actors to play the characters are... Well, here we go againl
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Postby faroukbaaaaa » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:44 am

Hollywood hates us all, nerds and cool kids alike. If they could turn the same money selling buckets then tomorrow it would happen, the whole studio system would become a bucket making system . That Terry Gilliam remains an outsider is proof enough that the majority of money men there do not respect the art in films. It's no great secret

... having said that I still think that if you are looking for a well made film based on 'street fighter' then perhaps we see things through different eyes
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Postby AgentHelix » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:57 am

The big thing is, why do you care so much about movies based on the stuff you like? Is it Hollywood that feels the stuff you like isn't good enough, or is it you at this point?

Also, the idea that "The storyboards ARE the comics!" shows a marked lack of understanding of either comics or film as media.
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Postby AgentHelix » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:58 am

And furthermore, I didn't see this argument when Spider-Man and Iron Man and Dark Knight came out. Do those movies just not count in this OH BOO HOO POOR NERDS equation?
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Re: Why does Hollywood hate nerds?

Postby em... » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:24 am

Sirius wrote:I remember one guy saying that he pays to see his favorite character come to life from how he remembers, not some directors interpretation.

Therein lies the problem. Unless the comic book or game character looks exactly like a particular actor, and they manage to get that particular actor to play him or her, it's quite likely that one person's (the director) interpretation will differ from someone else's (the fan).

Even in comics themselves, different artists and writers interpret characters differently.
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Postby AgentHelix » Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:27 am

And it's especially impossible because (and let's face it, this thread is just about superhero movies and nothing else) what comic version of Batman is the one that's canon and accurate? Which writer and artist's vision of Spider-Man? Whose depiction of the X-Men? I didn't see them wearing shitloads of pouches and lame characters like Gambit running around in the first two movies, and those still ended up being pretty solid.
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