williambloke wrote:Wow... I liked it but wow. It was a major reboot. They can basically ignore the history that was built before this movie. I have to think this was a tough blow to the original cast, and it sure will take the wind out of the sails of a lot of Trekkies.
I know that time travel is a huge part of the genre, but it really cheapens things for me. It gives you carte blanche as a writer. It just seems so.... easy.
lizzel wrote:The snow planet Kirk was marooned on was great. I feel like it may have been a nod to Star Wars.
em... wrote:If it's close enough for old Spock to see Vulcan collapsing into a singularity, isn't it therefore close enough to get sucked into the subsequent black hole?
em... wrote:lizzel wrote:The snow planet Kirk was marooned on was great. I feel like it may have been a nod to Star Wars.
The chased-by-a-monster-that-gets-eaten-by-a-bigger-monster part was lifted straight from The Phantom Menace.
bangalore_monkey wrote:em... wrote:If it's close enough for old Spock to see Vulcan collapsing into a singularity, isn't it therefore close enough to get sucked into the subsequent black hole?
i would suggest asking an astrophysicist. even thinking about this movie's concepts makes my head hurt. really, going anywhere past the face value of a movie that uses time and space to manipulate the story is futile. who knows how powerful a black hole created by "red matter" is, who cares, there's star ships shooting at each other.
on the other hand, i found that sequence frustrating on another level, as in there has to be a better way to get Kirk to meet old Spock, other than coincidentally being left on the same planet.
lizzel wrote:Or let's not care because it's just a movie.
em... wrote:In that case, young Spock deliberately abandoning Kirk there isn't very clever, is it?
Blue Pillow wrote:
As a lifelong "Star Wars Rulz, Star Trek Sux!" sort of fanboy, I am proud to say I totally loved this movie! Makes me want to catch up on at least some of the history of Trek...
...and (old) Spock defends himself by sending them all back in time.
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