Disney's "The Princess And The Frog" - First Conce

[jmad72]

jmad72 - I agree with you completely

Lacey

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Thanks, Lacey.

[Elliotanimated]

I left a bit off.
And no - I'm not American.
But I live there.
I've also lived in Europe and it is true that they are can be a prickly bunch in some places (especially London).
But Europeans are far more embracing of a broader cultural view than most other folks.
I'm actually Australian, which, according to most Londoners means that I am automatically racist.

[jmad72]

I can think of little more trivial than wanting your kids to relate to Disney Princesses.

Elliotanimated

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Well not so trivial really. Everyone wants a sense of belonging and/or being represented.

Whether it is in economics, politics, sports etc. Let's take the Olympics for an example.

I think the "dream" and original idea was to get countries together to forget about their (at least for a while) hostility toward one another. Never the less everyone wants/wanted their country to be represented with pride and to have someone who is of their culture stand on the same platform as others.

That being said, especially in terms of art..animation, illustration, music etc. all to be "immortalised" is a worldy thing. Art as a whole is viewed on a higher level and appreciated even more so in other countries than in the U.S. To have someone who
"represents" your culture is a needed.

Of course some might say, well it is just a cartoon but never the less it is a representation. The sambo, coon amd mammy images are cartoons but to this day they have an affect on society. So to have a "positive" light shed upon an awkward situation is always welcome.

By saying this I do not mean that everything should be shown in a golden light but there are people who are influenced by what they see and what they should see is diversity. Especially kids. Here in the U.S. studios like Warner Bros. produced some material that was offensive and no doubt the kids watching those films, while knowing it is a cartoon
did not want t be associated with the "butt" of the joke.

It helps shapes peoples opinions and attitudes and hopefully open up a world of understanding so that diversity is a norm.

[jmad72]

'm actually Australian, which, according to most Londoners means that I am automatically racist.

Elliotanimated

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Really bad outlook by some of them.

[Lacey]

I left a bit off.
And no - I'm not American.
But I live there.
I've also lived in Europe and it is true that they are can be a prickly bunch in some places (especially London).
But Europeans are far more embracing of a broader cultural view than most other folks.
I'm actually Australian, which, according to most Londoners means that I am automatically racist.

Really? I didn't know that Australians were considered more racist than others o.O thats a shame :\ well I'm sure your not. And yes I want my children to have role models that don't include Disney Princesses... that doesn't mean they don't need to feel some form of acceptance when their 3, 4, 5... 9. I'm sorry but most children watch cartoons, especially Disney movies, and they won't be able to really look up to someone until they are a little older. So yes, when a little 5 year old African American girl wants to find a Disney Princess or some other significant character and can't find one that looks like her... it will have an impact on her psyche.

This is less to do about children finding a Disney Princess to relate to, and more about a large and influential corporation finally recognizing a race that they have excluded sense the time of their conception.

Don't mistake that I think Disney influences everything and thats what makes this a huge deal... but it is one of the last places in entertainment that has yet to truly recognize this race of people. The Princess and the Frog will be a step.. and it's a shame that they can't use a story that has more to do with the real African American experience... but NONE of the other movies are true stories that really have to do with the White American Experience. So why should a story involving African Americans only be considered significant if it deals with something more realistic? None of the other princess and non-princess animated movies were realistic or based off true heppenings. So having black characters in a movie that could have any race in it somehow makes it less important? I don't think so.

jmad72 - Thank you! I'm not very good at getting my point across and you explain much better than I

[drugmassacre]

i've always been very happy to have the media as a dispensible source of role models. I know I would never be who I am today without Jack Burton to show me how to be a successful white male in today's turbulant society

IT'S ALL IN THE REFLEXES
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[Lacey]

lol

[jmad72]

jmad72 - Thank you! I'm not very good at getting my point across and you explain much better than I

Lacey -

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Thank you...and you do a great job of getting your point across.

Keep expressing yourself.

[HellboyOne]

Some more nice drawings here:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=294651

[Lacey]

Some more nice drawings here:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=294651

I have seen the first couple of scenes... but all those concept drawings aren't official concepts... those are David Gilson's ideas for Tiana.

[AzzaMcKazza]

First trailer has appeared

Feels a bit.....stale. Good to see 2D back I suppose, but I doubt I'll be rushing to check it out.

[idle.]

First trailer has appeared

Feels a bit.....stale. Good to see 2D back I suppose, but I doubt I'll be rushing to check it out.

Yeah, that didn't make me jump either.

[Elliotanimated]

Stale is the perfect work for it.
Mawkish vo performances.
Uninspired characters.
Blah blah blah.

[dr.hong]

Looks good to me! I can't wait to see it in theatres.

[AzzaMcKazza]

I think it was the firefly that did it for me. The wisecracking, fourth wall breaking observer has just been done so much - especially by Disney.