Looking for Background layout sheets

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Looking for Background layout sheets

Postby jurassic7 » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:08 am

Hello all, I'm looking to see if anyone has background layout sheets from any television or feature animated films. Really hungry to explore backgrounds so I'm open to anything you have!
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Postby disneyaholic » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:46 pm

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Postby salko007 » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:26 pm

So you can use our examples in your school?
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Postby jurassic7 » Mon May 01, 2006 10:42 am

Thanks for the link, really appreciate it I've recently begun art directing a new 3D feature film and I'm hungry to explore bg design since I'm primarily a character designer.

I'm also really interested in exploring the color key process, as it will lead to real painting not just my usual marker renders.

any way please keep the links coming!
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Postby emceeONE » Mon May 01, 2006 11:18 am

salko007 wrote:So you can use our examples in your school?


uh, so what?

If you don't want your work to be used or public sites you use as reference being used, that's your call.

He's stated his intention, but when instructing students, would you not say it's better to show them great works of art from the masters?

When you learned to draw, did you not study artists other than your teacher? Did your instructor only force you to learn from his or her own work?

Would you rather he follow the Chris Hart way?

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Postby salko007 » Mon May 01, 2006 8:37 pm

No, I do not think that intellectual property should be shared based on your wish to have successful school.(not just yours, all other institutions do the same thing photocopying books of others and then selling it to the students as their own learning tool without PAYING the artists or authors)
Or to use examples on the website, or in a school without written permission of the artist.
To have teacher using someones work examples for free while you were making money
that is wrong.
At least find a teacher with layout experience that can teach a students key layout design,or a layout with his own examples.I do not think that internet or a library is the place where everything is free for all.

I would like to see some of the schools being on the court based on this issue.
At least in a USA you can take to court anybody, for any amount of money,don't you?
You should learn,that nothing is free in life, unfortunately
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Postby salko007 » Mon May 01, 2006 8:42 pm

At least Chris is PUBLISHED no matter what is the subject inside...
And he is making money too,with a crappy books.

So why don't you make your own?(book)
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Postby emceeONE » Mon May 01, 2006 10:50 pm

salko007 wrote:No, I do not think that intellectual property should be shared based on your wish to have successful school.(not just yours, all other institutions do the same thing photocopying books of others and then selling it to the students as their own learning tool without PAYING the artists or authors)
Or to use examples on the website, or in a school without written permission of the artist.
To have teacher using someones work examples for free while you were making money
that is wrong.
At least find a teacher with layout experience that can teach a students key layout design,or a layout with his own examples.I do not think that internet or a library is the place where everything is free for all.

I would like to see some of the schools being on the court based on this issue.
At least in a USA you can take to court anybody, for any amount of money,don't you?
You should learn,that nothing is free in life, unfortunately


first, it's not my school. :wink:

second, while I understand your copyright argument, there are provisions for fair use.

he's not making photocopies and selling it to or giving it away for free to students.

hell, as he's said, he's not even using it for students at his schools.

ignoring that fact, he's still theoretically allowed by law to bring in stuff and say "this looks cool, look at it."

Copyright laws can't and don't stop you from doing that.

Again, if you choose not to cite resources for him to look to, that's your call. But I don't see anything wrong with anyone showing masterful works to aid in inspiring students.

Re: Chris Hart. That's not what I asked. I asked as a teaching method which method works better: the Chris Hart "look only at my work" method or displaying several different examples of great work while showing how the fundamentals work?
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Postby jurassic7 » Tue May 02, 2006 11:18 am

Thanks for the awesome support Emcee, this guy Salk007 is just trolling around looking for a fight. I remember him posting some less than constructive comments about my school website, and I'm not surprised he's back looking to take more jabs at the Animation Design Center.

As stated before I'm looking to build a visual library for my own personal use as artistic insparation, and to think I want to rip off other artists is just ridiculous and petty.

I mean no disrespect to you Salk007 and I can understand your concerns about copyright infringments, however I can also see you delight in bringing attention to yourself by inventing problems with people.

I want to extend my hand to you in the hopes we can squash what ever I or my school did to offend you so much, I view the drawing board as a way artists can put aside beefs and enjoy each others creative energy.

If you still don't feel satisfied with my response perhaps you should IM me and we can discuss it togther rather than creating a negative thread.
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Postby salko007 » Tue May 02, 2006 4:02 pm

My intent was not to bring negative attention to your school, just to say how teachers do rip
off legit artist and incorporate them into their own notes, that later they request from sudents to be purchased from them.Students needs to be encouraged to seek and search knowledge of their own based on referral in a notes.Motivaton,motivation thats all...


Cheers

http://www.prodisney.ru/clones.php

Here is Disney recycling themselfs it is on Russian vebsite...but this is ok in animaton to make things cheaper in production.
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Postby disneyaholic » Tue May 02, 2006 4:07 pm

Huh?, I don't understand your comments. I am the webmaster of the site of the posted link to the background photos. For anybody wondering, As my disclaimer states that all work is property of Disney and you can re-use the information freely for educational purposes. And before anybody starts talk about Disney won't like all of this stuff posted on my site, Disney does know about the site and have been selected to get first hand promotional information about upcoming DVD's & movies.

emceeONE wrote:
salko007 wrote:So you can use our examples in your school?


uh, so what?

If you don't want your work to be used or public sites you use as reference being used, that's your call.

He's stated his intention, but when instructing students, would you not say it's better to show them great works of art from the masters?

When you learned to draw, did you not study artists other than your teacher? Did your instructor only force you to learn from his or her own work?

Would you rather he follow the Chris Hart way?

:roll:
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Postby jurassic7 » Wed May 03, 2006 5:41 am

Hello Disneyaholic, just a misunderstanding by the way I was flipping out over the Snow White development work! Just incredible!
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